{"id":6621,"date":"2023-10-11T10:35:37","date_gmt":"2023-10-11T09:35:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/?p=6621"},"modified":"2024-12-02T14:38:43","modified_gmt":"2024-12-02T13:38:43","slug":"real-writing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/?p=6621","title":{"rendered":"Real Writing"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Is writing seemly? Does the writer cut a respectable figure? Is it proper to write? Is it done?<br><br>Of course not. <\/p>\n<cite>Jacques Derrida, &#8220;Plato&#8217;s Pharmacy&#8221;<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Yesterday David Gunkel said something puzzling. I have been trying to argue that <a href=\"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/?p=6587\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"6587\">&#8220;ChatGPT can&#8217;t write&#8221;<\/a> in a sense that Derrida would acknowledge as such. David&#8217;s position is that<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>ChatGPT is not a &#8220;writer&#8221; in the human sense. It doesn&#8217;t have something it wishes to say (the logocentric conceptualization of &#8220;writing&#8221;). But it does output sequences of words in\/on a medium (the screen). So it does produce writing. <\/p>\n<cite><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/David_Gunkel\/status\/1711716652222484836\">X, <time datetime=\"2023-10-10T12:13:46.000Z\">2:13 PM \u00b7 Oct 10, 2023<\/time><\/a><br><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I responded as follows:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that for Derrida real writing (human writing) is somewhere between logocentric vouloir dire and producing sequences of words. My argument is that he would not countenance the latter as writing without a trace of difference.<\/p>\n<cite><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Inframethod\/status\/1711757900132086064\"><time datetime=\"2023-10-10T14:57:40.000Z\">X, 4:57 PM \u00b7 Oct 10, 2023<\/time><\/a><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s his puzzling response: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>You presume to speak for Derrida. The very concept of &#8216;real writing&#8217; (as opposed to what would be &#8220;apparent writing&#8221;) is submitted to the movement of deconstruction. See &#8220;Plato&#8217;s Pharmacy&#8221; and the essays in &#8220;Writing and Difference.&#8221;<\/p>\n<cite><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/David_Gunkel\/status\/1711761438627217745\">X, <time datetime=\"2023-10-10T15:11:44.000Z\">5:11 PM \u00b7 Oct 10, 2023<\/time><\/a><br><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>What puzzles me is that David, who is such an enthusiastic reader of Derrida, would, first, reduce the concept of &#8220;writing&#8221; to the mere production of a sequence of words and, then, dissolve the distinction between a &#8220;real&#8221; act of writing and a simulacrum. Even humans can fake it, pull one over, dial it in. Surely we can tell when a sequence of words isn&#8217;t really a piece of writing? To say that there is no interesting difference to trace here is very strange to me. Especially for the author of a book called <em><a href=\"https:\/\/mitpress.mit.edu\/9780262542470\/deconstruction\/\">Deconstruction<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is writing seemly? Does the writer cut a respectable figure? Is it proper to write? Is it done? Of course not. Jacques Derrida, &#8220;Plato&#8217;s Pharmacy&#8221; Yesterday David Gunkel said something puzzling. I have been trying to argue that &#8220;ChatGPT can&#8217;t write&#8221; in a sense that Derrida would acknowledge as such. David&#8217;s position is that ChatGPT &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/?p=6621\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Real Writing<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6621","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6621","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6621"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6621\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7297,"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6621\/revisions\/7297"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6621"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6621"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/inframethodology.cbs.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6621"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}